My experience with dairy goats
We started raising goats and chickens in 1999. I was told that goats milk was the best for
special needs children and that it might be the best thing for my daughter, Faith
Anne’s, tummy troubles. It also appealed
to me as we were wanting to try to have a farm that provided the healthiest
most natural food that was not tampered with to eat. One other thing was that our family was
growing and as the years went by food was getting more expensive so we knew if
hard times came we would have goats and chickens for food.
I had no idea what I was doing. As a matter of fact when I went to buy my
first goat from a dairy goat breeder, she actually wanted to know that her
goats were going to be taken care of well once they left her property. She refused to sell me a goat and told me to
go and get educated and come back if I was not too offended. Offended I was, but she was also right. She had the best milk goats around in our
area and I wanted some. And back then I thought
you bought a milk goat and then you had milk.
Wrong! There is a whole right way
and wrong way to the animal husbandry of goats.
So I started my journey to learning all I could to raise goats and do it
right.
At first I thought that if I was going to raise goats I was
going to raise the best. But I soon
learned a lot about that. You see the
best in show standards are not always the best for a backyard farms like
ours. One time I had a pure bred
Lamancha doe that I paid a lot of money for.
She milked over a gallon a day.
But those teats were so small and the orifices so tiny that the milk
came out in such a small stream. It took
me 20 minutes and many cramps in my hands to milk her out. Twice a day!
NOT worth it to me. So thus
started our breeding program.
Pure bred registered Lamancha. See how she has almost no exterior ear. People say they look like they have a seals head they have such small ears.
This is the actual goat that gave over a gallon a day and had such small teats it took me so long to milk her out.
We had all registered animals. They were all disease free and CAE and CL negative. We ran a clean closed herd. Meaning once a goat left our property it never came back. No one used our bucks but us and I only bought from other disease free herds. We had new arrivals quarantined and then tested before adding them to our herd. I ran two herds at that time. One was Lamancha (very small ears) and the other was Nubians.(very long ears) These are dairy animals so not like the petting animal goats. My does were about 150 pounds and the bucks up to almost 300 pounds. Trying to run two herds and keep things registered and take care of my large family soon took its toll. One night after a long day of caring for the children and then three hours in the barn doing work and everyone else was in bed sleeping already. I thought, why the heck am I doing this? I just wanted healthy milk for my family. I wanted to enjoy being with our goats. Take good care of them. Expose my children to the joys of being raised on the farm and learn a good work ethic.
So I came up with a new philosophy on what I wanted to do
with my breeding program. Breed for good
healthy, sturdy goats that gave a lot of milk out of long enough teats to hand
milk comfortably and have good size milk orifices. I wanted to go out to the barn and milk a
goat out in five minutes pat her on the head and send her off to graze for the
day and I didn’t care if they were going to be pure bred with papers and didn’t
care if I could sell the babies. I would
give them away if I had to and I have at times too! This realization was about in 2003.
One of my Lamancha Nubian crosses. She was a wonderful easy milker and sweet girl.
I kept my two best Nubian bucks and all my best does from both herds. Most of them were Lamanchas. And I sold off the rest. I went from 30 adult goats, plus kids and yearlings, down to about eight! I started to bred them, breeding for the above stated characteristics. If they didn’t do the above, they got sold or given away. The first babies out of the cross did indeed have crossbred vigor. They were bigger, healthier and more worm resistant animals.
I kept my two best Nubian bucks and all my best does from both herds. Most of them were Lamanchas. And I sold off the rest. I went from 30 adult goats, plus kids and yearlings, down to about eight! I started to bred them, breeding for the above stated characteristics. If they didn’t do the above, they got sold or given away. The first babies out of the cross did indeed have crossbred vigor. They were bigger, healthier and more worm resistant animals.
Over the years of breeding this way, I have had some great milkers
for my family. People often bought goats
and came back for more as they wanted what I wanted and bred for. God was gracious and helped me learn so
much. I would pay a vet to come out once
if I had a problem I could not handle. I
watched what he did and prayed to God to help me take care of the same
situations if they popped up again after that.
And He has.
For years now, I only
had four does and two bucks on the property. That is all we needed. As I bred
two does every six months to keep us in milk year round. We did indeed use that much milk. About 2 gallons a day. All those years I had many children with
feeding tubes that needed it and I made cheese and the little kids drank
it. We made ice cream, custards, cheese
cake and so much more.
Here are triplets from a Lamancha doe and a pure Nubian buck. The two does were born with what they call elf ears. And the buckling with long Nubian ears.
These two we kept from the above triplet breeding. They freshened into such good, easy milkers they are the only large dairy goats I kept out of my full sized diary goat herd. My son named them Twinkie and Bluebell.
These two we kept from the above triplet breeding. They freshened into such good, easy milkers they are the only large dairy goats I kept out of my full sized diary goat herd. My son named them Twinkie and Bluebell.
I love goats. I think they are so practical and I will always have a few on the property even if I never milk them when I am old. :) But as time has went on feed prices have climbed very high and we don’t need as much milk as we used to. The kids are older and don’t drink milk every day. Three of us in the family can’t even have dairy any more. So I knew we needed less milk per day as well. So two years ago I started to make some huge changes once again.
I was researching how
to cut back on feed and still get the
amount of milk we need. I started
looking into getting a new Nubian buck at that time. I had not needed a new buck in years. As I always replaced my two bucks at the same
time and can play with those genetics for several years before needing to use a different buck. So I had not been buck shopping in many
years. It had been so long since I went
looking for a great Nubian buck and I soon realized that most of the great
herds in my area were just not in business anymore. So I thought ok. I will find a Lamancha buck. Same thing.
I mean they are out there. All
over the country but pretty far from where I live to get a good one and far
fewer dairy herds breeding out there than there were 10 years ago. I was just so curious why so many people had given them
up? Was it the climbing prices of
grain. Or people couldn’t afford to do
it anymore? Then I realized that many of
the people that did full sized goats had switched to the Nigerian Dwarfs and I wanted
to know why. So I started researching.
Here is what I found out.
I know everyone likes their particular breed of goat best and stand up
for them. But the larger sized goats
have been bred for years. Putting the
feed to them to increase milk production and get the most and best out of
them. And the fact of the matter
is. At least in my part of the
world. I HAVE to grain my full sized
goats year round. At least 2 cups of
feed a day on dry does and on bucks too in order to keep them in good body
condition. That gets expensive. Then when they are pregnant and in milk they
need even more and some of my heavy milkers a whole lot more.
The Nigerian dwarfs are just catching on because of the practicality
of them. They have not been bred for
greatness for as long. In most cases,
where there is enough grass and browse, the bucks don’t need fed much if
anything at all and the does only the last two weeks before kidding and then
when they are milking. Also many people don’t
have huge farms. And a Nigerian can live
in a large dog house instead of investing in a huge barn. They can also live on
a far smaller field than a large animal.
So for the small back yard farm they are much more practical. And for me in my situation. They give less milk. So I can milk one or two and probably get
just what I need for my family and are smaller and easier to handle. I don’t have the strength I used to and can
get pushed and knocked around when trying trim hooves or give supplements. The little ones I just pick up and do what
needs doing. They are bouncier
though! :)
So all this is said to share I am in the middle of “The
Great Goat Experiment” on my farm right now!
I have sold off all my large goats except for my favorite two lamanch/Nubian
cross milkers. They are the end result
of all my years of breeding for a great back yard milker. And if I don’t like the Nigerians I can
always restart my herd with these two.
Twinkie and Bluebell all grown up and six years old.
I took the money from the sale of my entire rest of my herd and last year bought four very good does that I did a lot of research on the parentage on them. They all have easy to hand milk moms and the bucks I bought(3 of them) are from easy to hand milk moms. I got them all from disease free herds. As I have always keep a clean closed disease free herd. As we drink the milk I don’t want any issues. So have always been so very careful. With four good does and three good bucks I should be able to play around with the genetics for quite a while before having to bring in more stock.
In the winter I took my new triple registered Nigerian buck
and bred him to my two full sized does just for fun. To see if I could get some half sized great
milkers with the good qualities from both worlds. So that is experiment number one. Then experiment number two is just working
with full Nigerians. My four little does
are finally at a good weight to breed so I have a buck in with them right
now. He has been in there for a
month. So in four or five months I should
start to have full Nigerian babies bouncing around the farm. Then in
a year I can begin to play a bit in breeding for what I want in them. Same thing as my old herd. Sturdy easy to hand milk and a good
amount. I know they will never give a
gallon a day. But I don’t need a gallon
a day anymore. So I am good with
that. When I sold off my full sized herd
and went to the smaller ones our feed bill dropped 200 dollars right away. (our feed bill includes feed for ALL animals
on the farm from geese to chickens to cats and dogs) So I am already happy there. I am
still feeding two full sized goats. I am
very excited with what is to come!
The end of January my first full sized goat bred by the Nigerian
buck had her kids. It was a horrible
delivery. (will have to share it later)
But she gave me two does and a buck.
The buck and one doe had the Lamancha ears and the other doe has the Nigerian
ears. I found a home for the buck right
away as I didn’t want to bottle feed him or keep him. And I needed the milk for the does and my
family.
People right now are breeding what they call Mini Nubians
and Mini Lamancha by doing just what I did above. Using a Nigerian buck on full sized Lamancha
or Nubian does. Getting good milkers
for smaller farms. So as I do my Nigerian
experiment I am going to keep any does from my larger does breed to the Nigerians
just to raise them and see how they milk.
I am excited!
Love your websight. I too am a Christian. Just brought home a mini Lamancha x Nubian cross with very funny ears that stick out sideways. I absolutely love her. Just wormed her with Ivermectin. Waiting for your response to how long to wait after worming her before we can drink the milk.
ReplyDeleteThank you for your comment. I am so happy about your recent purchase of a goat. Crosses are usually a lot more hardy. We love our goats. I hope you have many years of milk from yours.
DeleteI just left a response to this question under the post Deworming and Goats. I am not sure if it was left by you or another. :) So I will copy and paste my response here as well.
I am not a vet, so it is your decision, based on what knowledge you have. :) Believe it or not the withdraw time is... In the US: 36 days
In the UK: 14 days
The information can be found here.
http://fiascofarm.com/goats/wormers.htm#ivomec
Look under ivromectin injectable on the above page link. Personally I go five to seven days. Depending on how fast I need milk. That is our choice and what we do. I figure that Ivromectin is given to children in third world countries to deworm them. So it is safe for humans. The trace amounts that would be in my milk after seven days should be a very small amount and I do not worry about it. I deworm the day I breed my goats and the day my goat kids. I rarely have to deworm more than that. So I do not run into having to dump milk. As by the time the colostrum is out of the milk, after seven days, we start to drink it. Of course do all this at your own risk. Hope this helps. Blessings!